Help with missing rainbow

[tcroyer]

Yesterday, after a day or more of constant rain, there appeared in front of
my house a very impressive double rainbow. I grabbed my camera to get a
picture.

When using portrait orientation, I got three really good shots, but when I
changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the
optical viewfinder) (mostly -- I can see it very faintly in the processed
image).

What happened?

Camera: Sony A550 with 18-55mm f3.5-5.6. Post processing: Photoshop
Elements 8. Image format: RAW.

Given that I can see traces of the rainbow in the landscape mode shots, the
information must be there, but I can't figure out the PE8 incantations
necessary to bring it out.

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

[Alan Browne]

Post by tcroyer
Yesterday, after a day or more of constant rain, there appeared in front of
my house a very impressive double rainbow. I grabbed my camera to get a
picture.
When using portrait orientation, I got three really good shots, but when I
changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the
optical viewfinder) (mostly -- I can see it very faintly in the processed
image).
What happened?
Camera: Sony A550 with 18-55mm f3.5-5.6. Post processing: Photoshop
Elements 8. Image format: RAW.
Given that I can see traces of the rainbow in the landscape mode shots, the
information must be there, but I can't figure out the PE8 incantations
necessary to bring it out.
Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

1. post what you've got so far.

2. Did you over expose?

3. Rainbows come.

4. and rainbows go.

[peter]

Post by Alan Browne
3. Rainbows come.
4. and rainbows go.

and for only a short time do they show

where they disappear to, does anybody know.

but they do seem brighter when you've had some rum

[jkneese]

Give this a try:

1. Be sure Layers panel is visible (Window > Layers)
2. Click Layers > Duplicate Layer (or click Ctrl + J)
3. Click the down arrow next to "Normal" in the blend mode drop-down
4a. Click "Multiply"
4b. Alternately, click "Overlay"
5a. If too dark or colorful, click down arrow by Opacity and adjust slider
5b. If not dark / vidid enough do step 2. again
6. When finished click Layers > Merge Visible or Flatten (Shift + Ctrl + E)

Let us know if this helps. Good luck!

Post by tcroyer
Yesterday, after a day or more of constant rain, there appeared in front
of my house a very impressive double rainbow. I grabbed my camera to get
a picture.
When using portrait orientation, I got three really good shots, but when I
changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the
optical viewfinder) (mostly -- I can see it very faintly in the processed
image).
What happened?
Camera: Sony A550 with 18-55mm f3.5-5.6. Post processing: Photoshop
Elements 8. Image format: RAW.
Given that I can see traces of the rainbow in the landscape mode shots,
the information must be there, but I can't figure out the PE8 incantations
necessary to bring it out.
Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
--
Tom Royer
If you're not free to fail, you're not free. -- Gene Burns

[Giganews]

"tcroyer" wrote: (clip) When using portrait orientation, I got three really
good shots, but when I

Post by tcroyer
changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the
optical viewfinder) (mostly -- I can see it very faintly in the processed
image).
What happened?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
When you say it disappeared in the *optical viewfinder,* do you mean a
through the lens viewfinder, or a separate optical path liker on the old
35mm rangefinder cameras? If it was through the lens, my next question is,
"were you using a polarizing filter?" Did you rotate the camera back to the
portrait orientation to see whether the rainbow came back? I can't think of
anything but a polarizer that could produce such an effect, and then only of
you are viewing through the lens.

I hope the three portrait shots were done in a mode for panoramic stitching.

[Tim Conway]

Post by Giganews
"tcroyer" wrote: (clip) When using portrait orientation, I got three
really good shots, but when I

Post by tcroyer
changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the
optical viewfinder) (mostly -- I can see it very faintly in the processed
image).
What happened?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
When you say it disappeared in the *optical viewfinder,* do you mean a
through the lens viewfinder, or a separate optical path liker on the old
35mm rangefinder cameras? If it was through the lens, my next question
is, "were you using a polarizing filter?" Did you rotate the camera back
to the portrait orientation to see whether the rainbow came back? I can't
think of anything but a polarizer that could produce such an effect, and
then only of you are viewing through the lens.
I hope the three portrait shots were done in a mode for panoramic stitching.

Using a polarizing filter would lessen a rainbow under certain
circumstances.

Hopefully he can stitch together the portraits.

[tcroyer]

Post by Giganews
"tcroyer" wrote: (clip) When using portrait orientation, I got three
really good shots, but when I

Post by tcroyer
changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the
optical viewfinder) (mostly -- I can see it very faintly in the processed
image).
What happened?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
When you say it disappeared in the *optical viewfinder,* do you mean a
through the lens viewfinder, or a separate optical path liker on the old
35mm rangefinder cameras? If it was through the lens, my next question
is, "were you using a polarizing filter?" Did you rotate the camera back
to the portrait orientation to see whether the rainbow came back? I can't
think of anything but a polarizer that could produce such an effect, and
then only of you are viewing through the lens.
I hope the three portrait shots were done in a mode for panoramic stitching.

Bingo !

Call me an idiot (actually, you're too late, I already did). As soon as I
read "polarizing filter", I knew what had had happened.

Thanks for the inputs.

Tom

[Paul Furman]

Post by tcroyer

Post by Giganews
"tcroyer" wrote: (clip) When using portrait orientation, I got three
really good shots, but when I

Post by tcroyer
changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the
optical viewfinder) (mostly -- I can see it very faintly in the processed
image).
What happened?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
When you say it disappeared in the *optical viewfinder,* do you mean a
through the lens viewfinder, or a separate optical path liker on the old
35mm rangefinder cameras? If it was through the lens, my next question
is, "were you using a polarizing filter?" Did you rotate the camera back
to the portrait orientation to see whether the rainbow came back? I can't
think of anything but a polarizer that could produce such an effect, and
then only of you are viewing through the lens.
I hope the three portrait shots were done in a mode for panoramic stitching.

Bingo !
Call me an idiot (actually, you're too late, I already did). As soon as I
read "polarizing filter", I knew what had had happened.

Could I get a little more explanation of this effect? I don't understand
how polarizers effected a rainbow...

[Peter Chant]

Post by Paul Furman

Post by tcroyer
Call me an idiot (actually, you're too late, I already did). As soon as
I read "polarizing filter", I knew what had had happened.

Could I get a little more explanation of this effect? I don't understand
how polarizers effected a rainbow...

Presumably the light diffracted by a rainbow is polarised.

[otter]

Post by Paul Furman

Post by tcroyer

Post by Giganews
"tcroyer" wrote: (clip) When using portrait orientation, I got three
really good shots, but when I

Post by tcroyer
changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the
optical viewfinder) (mostly -- I can see it very faintly in the processed
image).
What happened?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
When you say it disappeared in the *optical viewfinder,* do you mean a
through the lens viewfinder, or a separate optical path liker on the old
35mm rangefinder cameras?  If it was through the lens, my next question
is, "were you using a polarizing filter?"  Did you rotate the camera back
to the portrait orientation to see whether the rainbow came back?  I can't
think of anything but a polarizer that could produce such an effect, and
then only of you are viewing through the lens.
I hope the three portrait shots were done in a mode for panoramic stitching.

Bingo !
Call me an idiot (actually, you're too late, I already did).  As soon as I
read "polarizing filter", I knew what had had happened.

Could I get a little more explanation of this effect? I don't understand
how polarizers effected a rainbow...

Rotating a polarized filter 90 degrees could do that. You can do the
same thing with light reflecting off water or glass.

[Robert Coe]

On Tue, 9 Nov 2010 19:19:11 -0500, "tcroyer" <***@solidus-ts.com> wrote:
: "Giganews" <***@att.net> wrote in message
: news:***@giganews.com...
: >
: >
: > "tcroyer" wrote: (clip) When using portrait orientation, I got three
: > really good shots, but when I
: >> changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the
: >> optical viewfinder) (mostly -- I can see it very faintly in the processed
: >> image).
: >>
: >> What happened?
: > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: > When you say it disappeared in the *optical viewfinder,* do you mean a
: > through the lens viewfinder, or a separate optical path liker on the old
: > 35mm rangefinder cameras? If it was through the lens, my next question
: > is, "were you using a polarizing filter?" Did you rotate the camera back
: > to the portrait orientation to see whether the rainbow came back? I can't
: > think of anything but a polarizer that could produce such an effect, and
: > then only of you are viewing through the lens.
: >
: > I hope the three portrait shots were done in a mode for panoramic
: > stitching.
: >
:
: Bingo !
:
: Call me an idiot (actually, you're too late, I already did). As soon as I
: read "polarizing filter", I knew what had had happened.

I guess the takeaway from this story is, "At the end of a shoot, when you
return your camera to grabshot settings, be sure to remove the polarizer!" ;^)

Bob

[peter]

Post by Robert Coe
I guess the takeaway from this story is, "At the end of a shoot, when you
return your camera to grabshot settings, be sure to remove the polarizer!" ;^)

Now if only we can remove the polarizing threads from NGs.

[tcroyer]

Post by Robert Coe
: >
: >
: > "tcroyer" wrote: (clip) When using portrait orientation, I got three
: > really good shots, but when I
: >> changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the
: >> optical viewfinder) (mostly -- I can see it very faintly in the processed
: >> image).
: >>
: >> What happened?
: > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: > When you say it disappeared in the *optical viewfinder,* do you mean a
: > through the lens viewfinder, or a separate optical path liker on the old
: > 35mm rangefinder cameras? If it was through the lens, my next question
: > is, "were you using a polarizing filter?" Did you rotate the camera back
: > to the portrait orientation to see whether the rainbow came back? I can't
: > think of anything but a polarizer that could produce such an effect, and
: > then only of you are viewing through the lens.
: >
: > I hope the three portrait shots were done in a mode for panoramic
: > stitching.
: >
: Bingo !
: Call me an idiot (actually, you're too late, I already did). As soon as I
: read "polarizing filter", I knew what had had happened.
I guess the takeaway from this story is, "At the end of a shoot, when you
return your camera to grabshot settings, be sure to remove the polarizer!" ;^)

Amen to that.

Post by Robert Coe
Bob

[M-M]

Post by tcroyer
Given that I can see traces of the rainbow in the landscape mode shots, the
information must be there, but I can't figure out the PE8 incantations
necessary to bring it out.

"Auto Levels" usually works very well on rainbows.

[k***@irchiver.com]

Post by tcroyer
Yesterday, after a day or more of constant rain, there appeared in front of
my house a very impressive double rainbow. I grabbed my camera to get a
picture.
When using portrait orientation, I got three really good shots, but when I
changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the
optical viewfinder) (mostly -- I can see it very faintly in the processed
image).
What happened?
Camera: Sony A550 with 18-55mm f3.5-5.6. Post processing: Photoshop
Elements 8. Image format: RAW.
Given that I can see traces of the rainbow in the landscape mode shots, the
information must be there, but I can't figure out the PE8 incantations
necessary to bring it out.
Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Looking for a permanent solution buddy!

***@irchiver.com